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Old 04-19-2019, 04:40 PM   #25661
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Only one who has a chance to me is Murray, only bc he's so dynamic. But I wouldn't bet on it bc he's just so damn small. He's not Baker small, he's small small.
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Old 04-19-2019, 04:42 PM   #25662
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Rosen is better than any of these qbs, and I'm not even a huge Rosen fan bc of his fragility and attitude. But if I had to take a qb this year, assuming Arizona takes Murray, I think Rosen is hands down the best available qb of the bunch.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:06 PM   #25663
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Rosen is better than any of these qbs, and I'm not even a huge Rosen fan bc of his fragility and attitude. But if I had to take a qb this year, assuming Arizona takes Murray, I think Rosen is hands down the best available qb of the bunch.
If you can get Rosen with a second i think thatís the way you go.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:07 PM   #25664
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I think when the dust settles Rosen will go for a 1st. My guess is Washington gives it up for him.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:10 PM   #25665
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I think when the dust settles Rosen will go for a 1st. My guess is Washington gives it up for him.
Probably donít have to but teams tend to bid against themselves. I still like Lock out of all of them.

*go ahead Sham let me have it*
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:12 PM   #25666
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Ilu Sage. *gives you a teddy bear hug*
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:12 PM   #25667
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Only one who has a chance to me is Murray, only bc he's so dynamic. But I wouldn't bet on it bc he's just so damn small. He's not Baker small, he's small small.
This is my feeling as well.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:13 PM   #25668
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Ilu Sage. *gives you a teddy bear hug*
I havenít seen any signs that say donít feed the trolls so why the hell not.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:15 PM   #25669
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This is my feeling as well.
If you're going to bet on a guy, you might as well go balls to the walls with it. That's how I see Murray as a prospect.

We'll basically know if Murray has the juice within a year. He's either going to work out right away or suck right away.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:18 PM   #25670
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If you're going to bet on a guy, you might as well go balls to the walls with it. That's how I see Murray as a prospect.

We'll basically know if Murray has the juice within a year. He's either going to work out right away or suck right away.
Heís going to suffer some of the same problems that Rosen did. No line and shitty receivers. If he can live long enough to see them upgrade those areas he might be ok.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:21 PM   #25671
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If you're going to bet on a guy, you might as well go balls to the walls with it. That's how I see Murray as a prospect.

We'll basically know if Murray has the juice within a year. He's either going to work out right away or suck right away.
BBD in my head stealing my thoughts.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:27 PM   #25672
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Heís going to suffer some of the same problems that Rosen did. No line and shitty receivers. If he can live long enough to see them upgrade those areas he might be ok.
The thing is what makes Murray great is his ability to work within a muddied pocket and buy guys time to get open, and how he can impact scheme with his versatility.

Even if his team sucks, if he can impact the game with those attributes at the next level, then that's enough evidence to believe in him. Then the rest is just getting talent around him.

But if he can't show that, then it's a failed experiment. If his size means he's getting beat the fuck up and injured a lot then it doesn't matter, none of it matters, bc qbs are going to get hit no matter how perfect that pocket is.

And if he has trouble finding throwing lanes then you can do all the 7 step drops in the world and it won't matter.

And that also impacts your perceived pocket too right? If all you can do with murray is 5 and 7 step drops for throwing lanes and he's not capable of buying enough time in those drops to evade pressure plus stay healthy then he's a dud no matter what.

And realistically, in today's NFL where OL help is hard to find, asking an OL to block 5 and 7 steps regularly without pressure is a bit unrealistic.

So really, for me, my main concerns are his ability to find those throwing lanes and his ability to stay healthy. I honestly don't know the answer to those concerns. If he can do both he's a stud, if he can't he's a dud. There's just no middle ground for him.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:35 PM   #25673
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This is way funnier than anything else

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Old 04-19-2019, 05:37 PM   #25674
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Scouts feeding insider info for a couple of bucks to the highest bidder bc scouts don't get paid shit.

Giants had a mole for awhile, once you have a mole it's really hard to weed them out without doing a makeover of the group.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:38 PM   #25675
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I didn't even realize Mayock was the GM over there.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:43 PM   #25676
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Dumb ass scout, Mayock has way more connections than you of course someone is going to tell him you're snitching
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:47 PM   #25677
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DeAngelo Russell working for the Raiders.
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Old 04-19-2019, 05:49 PM   #25678
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It'd be extremely hard for the Raiders to screw this draft up, but man I want to see it.
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Exactly what I was thinking to weed out any rats.
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Old 04-19-2019, 06:52 PM   #25680
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What is this the fucking Departed. That’s gotta he annoying as hell though.
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