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Old 12-20-2019, 01:14 PM   #50141
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Warren looked terrible last night
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Old 12-20-2019, 01:28 PM   #50142
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biden had a weird stuttering moment that was uncomfortable to watch.

i think bernie and pete did the best last night
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Old 12-20-2019, 01:39 PM   #50143
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Pete grew up rich, his “I’m a poor Midwesterner” schtick is so stupid.
Winning mayor as a Dem in a college Midwest town is different than winning mayor of like Opioidville, Kansas, but coastal liberals don't know shit about the country outside of like NYC and DC.
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Old 12-20-2019, 02:06 PM   #50144
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I'm honestly surprised she isn't doing better. She fits right into the center-right sweet spot for a lot of suburban Dems. I suppose Pete capitalized on that demographic already and stole what was there to be stolen from Biden.

That said, I don't know what she's angling for anymore. I don't think she'd be on anyone's VP short list, and I don't think she fits into any cabinet slot. I suppose a completely unforeseen surge in Iowa/NH/SC is possible, but it seems pretty darn unlikely.
She would pretty much guarantee a blue win in Minnesota and Wisconsin, but the problem is she also kind of just seems like someone who wants the job for the sake of having the job. She's also really boring.
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Old 12-20-2019, 02:29 PM   #50145
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I want a president who will literally slap the shit out of McConnell and it's clear Amy is the only one with the balls to do it.
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Old 12-20-2019, 04:19 PM   #50146
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She would pretty much guarantee a blue win in Minnesota and Wisconsin, but the problem is she also kind of just seems like someone who wants the job for the sake of having the job. She's also really boring.
probably could apply to everyone who ever ran for office.
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Old 12-20-2019, 04:38 PM   #50147
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The more I read Pete's healthcare comments (and after listening last night), the more moronic they become. There isn't a single part of his plan that makes sense or will work in any version of reality. And apparently thousands of idiots hear "I'll have choices!" and think that's somehow a good thing and can't wait to sell out poor people and seniors.

I wish they'd get better moderators and better questions on some of this stuff. Pete should be forced to explain why private insurers would actually get lower rates at hospitals, in direct contradiction of significant, current counter-examples. Bernie should be forced to explain how he'll get his plan passed, and how it will work without nationalizing the entire healthcare system. Klobuchar should be forced to answer a question without saying some form of "Midwest". Blech.

It's just another place where Pete should be anathema to anyone who's pretending to actually care about other people, but somehow isn't because he speaks well and no one listens to content anymore.
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Old 12-20-2019, 04:46 PM   #50148
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Every comment about the Warren/Pete argument I've seen is Pete won because he showed he can fight against Trump in a debate. None mentioned that everything he said was fuckin nonsense.
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Old 12-20-2019, 04:56 PM   #50149
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half of the questions actually get answered, and about a quarter of the questions get answered with a reasonable explanation.

guys like yang really contrast with the feel-good fluff pete and amy bluster
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Old 12-20-2019, 04:56 PM   #50150
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Everyone kept coming at him with weak shit and dumb jokes instead of directly calling him out, which allowed him to get the most air time and his responses were quick and came off as intelligent
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:09 PM   #50151
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After his "Whaddya mean, I'm a gay dude who won in Pence's Indiana!", I thought he'd drop an "Ok, Boomer" soon thereafter.

It's kinda funny seeing him get worked up.
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:14 PM   #50152
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Post debate shows are the worst. These pundits are fixated on wanting a warrior nominee. But the warrior shouldn't be mean, they should be joyful.



Yang shitting incessantly on MSNBC while sycophanting CNN has actually earned him positive coverage lol
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:39 PM   #50153
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Yay next debate will hopefully be all white
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:49 PM   #50154
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Post debate shows are the worst. These pundits are fixated on wanting a warrior nominee. But the warrior shouldn't be mean, they should be joyful.



Yang shitting incessantly on MSNBC while sycophanting CNN has actually earned him positive coverage lol
He cracked the code.
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Old 12-20-2019, 05:52 PM   #50155
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The media should not be a gatekeeper but the way they editorialize coverage of candidates and focus on certain issues while neglecting other issues, makes it so.
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Old 12-20-2019, 06:35 PM   #50156
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Bernie should be forced to explain how he'll get his plan passed
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Under reconciliation, a piece of legislation must meet certain fiscal conditions to bypass the customary 60-vote threshold. A bill passed under those rules is forbidden from increasing the federal deficit outside a 10-year window, for example. Democrats used reconciliation to pass much of Obamacare, and Republicans did so as well to pass their recent tax cuts into law.

Sanders’ plan hinges on overruling the Senate parliamentarian, the person in charge of figuring out whether a piece of legislation meets the conditions attached to reconciliation. Given the degree of its impact on issues like health care and taxing and spending, Medicare for All would likely face a very difficult time meeting those rules. Therefore, Sanders says he would instruct his future vice president ― who also serves as the president of the Senate ― to overrule the chamber’s parliamentarian and allow the bill to pass with a simple majority.

...It would be difficult in such a scenario for Republicans to overturn the vice president’s decisions. They would need to muster 60 votes to reverse him or her.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:09 PM   #50158
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Klomentum baby!
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:10 PM   #50159
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it's almost like Pete sucks and the more people see it the more they dislike him

I don't think I've ever disliked a primary candidate this much.
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Old 12-20-2019, 07:36 PM   #50160
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i like butt more and i like warren less
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