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Old 12-18-2019, 03:39 PM   #41
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I know there's exceptions(2011 Giants for instance) but it's hard to see this GB team winning the SB, even if they get the 2 seed. This team reminds me a lot of the 2002 Packers team that went 12-4 but never really looked like a 12-4 team. Beyond missing Davante for like 4 games, this team has been remarkably healthy all year long, has played teams at the right time(teams missing key players to injury, none bigger than not facing Mahomes in KC), and have had good breaks go their way(Lions game gifted to them, and then winning close games with a timely turnover or what not)

Honestly, Seattle and GB are basically the same meh overall team, except Seattle is getting MVP level QB play which will make them dangerous. Still see SF and NO as the clear cut favorites to win the NFC
The difference between being a 2 and 3 seed is the most significant postseason seeding difference in any sport today. Regardless of the perceived quality of the team, the odds of making a Super Bowl go way up as a 1 or 2 seed.

The last team who played on Wildcard weekend to even make the Super Bowl was the 2012 Ravens. Every team since has been a 1 or 2 seed. There is an absolutely massive difference between playing 3 games, 2 on the road, to make it to the Super Bowl versus 2, with at least one at home, after a bye.
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:16 PM   #42
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Random question: who was the last "likely to be fired" coach who was retained and actually did anything after?

I know things were rough for Ron Rivera in the first few Cam Newton years, but has there been anyone more recent?
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Old 12-18-2019, 05:17 PM   #43
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Random question: who was the last "likely to be fired" coach who was retained and actually did anything after?

I know things were rough for Ron Rivera in the first few Cam Newton years, but has there been anyone more recent?
Coughlin almost got fired before the first Super Bowl. At least if fans at the time had their way.
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Coughlin almost got fired before the first Super Bowl. At least if fans at the time had their way.
Well, New York fans... He made the playoffs the two seasons before winning that first Super Bowl.
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That was more the media running him out of town even more so than the fans. They were painting a picture that the locker room hated him which was also true until he became more laid back in that 2007 season.
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Well, New York fans... He made the playoffs the two seasons before winning that first Super Bowl.
I mean didn't Dungy make the playoffs a ton of times and couldn't get the Bucs over the hump?

Thats what NY fans thought of Coughlin - thank you for the rebuild, but you are have a ceiling.
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Coughlin doesn't qualify for the question. I'm trying to see if there was a Patricia or Kitchens type who was allowed to hang around and then actually did something.
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That was more the media running him out of town even more so than the fans. They were painting a picture that the locker room hated him which was also true until he became more laid back in that 2007 season.
Christmas Eve 2006. Giants vs Saints, 80% of the stadium chanted "Fire Coughlin" You were there with me.
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Christmas Eve 2006. Giants vs Saints, 80% of the stadium chanted "Fire Coughlin" You were there with me.
I remember the game but I don't remember the fire Coughlin chants but that game was a blowout! 30-7 and made us 7-8 on the year.
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I remember the game but I don't remember the fire Coughlin chants but that game was a blowout! 30-7 and made us 7-8 on the year.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...in-over-giants

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The sellout crowd let Coughlin know it was upset, twice chanting "Fire Coughlin" before heading for the exits.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:52 PM   #51
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I'm bored at work and looking up random stat stuff. In the final three playoff losses of Marino's career, this was the combined score

Dolphins: 13
Opponents: 118

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...9712280nwe.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...9901090den.htm
https://www.pro-football-reference.c...0001150jax.htm
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So do you guys think Hernandez did it?
The end. Cut to black. Audience goes fucking apeshit.
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Old 12-18-2019, 08:08 PM   #52
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Bobby Layne went 18 of 42 for 177 yards and 6 interceptions in the 1954 NFL Championship Game. Good for a QB Rating of 15.8

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...5412260cle.htm

This wasn't the worst championship game performance. Kerry Collins went 15 of 39 for 112 yards and 4 interceptions in the Super Bowl against the Ravens. Good for a QB rating of 7.1

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...0101280nyg.htm

This still wasn't the worst championship game performance. That distinction goes to Hall of Famer Y.A. Tittle who went 6 of 20 for 65 yards and 4 interceptions in the 1961 NFL Championship Game against the Packers. His QB Rating? 1.0

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...6112310gnb.htm
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So do you guys think Hernandez did it?
The end. Cut to black. Audience goes fucking apeshit.
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If the numbers hold, this will be the fifth time that Drew Brees has set a new record for single season completion percentage; and the third time in the past three seasons.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...gle_season.htm
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Dwayne Bowe's seven game stretch from Week 6 to 12 in 2010 represents possibly the greatest run of games for a receiver in NFL history: 49 receptions, 733 yards, and 13 touchdowns. Those numbers calculated to a full 16 game season equal 112 receptions, 1675 yards, and 30 touchdowns.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...8-54-sum:stats
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Sterling Sharpe played in the NFL for seven seasons, he made four Pro Bowls, three All-Pro teams, lead the league in receptions three times, lead the league in yards once, lead the league in touchdowns twice, and he also became only the eighth player ever to win the receiving Triple Crown. He is not in the Hall of Fame.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...S/SharSt00.htm

Art Monk played in the NFL for sixteen seasons, he made three Pro Bowls, one All-Pro team, lead the league in receptions once. He is in the Hall of Fame.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...M/MonkAr00.htm
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I mean, Terrell Davis got in. Every other burn-bright-but-burn-fast player is going to get reevaluated now.
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Sterling Sharpe deserves it, Priest Holmes deserves an argument and Bo Jackson deserves it for his raw talent and what he meant to the sports world at large.
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Coughlin doesn't qualify for the question. I'm trying to see if there was a Patricia or Kitchens type who was allowed to hang around and then actually did something.
Jimmy Johnson? Nevermind
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You know they'll be talked back up in the offseason. Healthy Stafford! Added a top 5 pick! The defense will be better in a 3rd year of Patricia's scheme!
Respect the process.
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