New York Giants Thread

[Zak]

Well well well look who decided to join.

[Mel Pipeher]

Yea I like harassing you guys too much.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Mel Pipeher

I believe Raanan listed Mosley as a Guard running with the twos but I agree unless we see an improvement there's a good chance he doesn't make it out of this training camp.

I still think we should look at Collins as well. I think we're going to reassess the tackle position after OTAs. Long or Collins are the top Vets available.

Oh I had no idea he was still on the team. Regardless, I don't see him getting passed Jerry. Jerry sucks as a run blocker, and is mediocre as a pass protector, but that sadly is the best we have as far as depth is concerned.

Sounds like Reese is going to wait until guys get cut before we make a move, according to Paul Schwartz.

Originally Posted by Cig

No, but I scouted him a good bit for the last mock draft (where I picked him). He had a few rough games in his career, but also some pretty good ones against quality rushers, and he looked good in pass protection at the Senior Bowl. He's more natural on the right, but has the skill set to play on the left side as needed. Reminds me of Trent Williams, who was also thought of by some as RT-only leading up to that draft.

From what i've seen from him, while his technique is bad at times, he is able to get away with it bc he's so massive and athletic. And the Nebraska game is waaaay overblown, he took it to Gregory the entire game outside of 1 play, and Gregory lined up away from him most of the second half bc he was getting stone walled.

But what worries me is, in the NFL, if you want to play LT you better have your technique down. You will get abused with the mistakes he makes technically. That's why I felt a lot better with him at RT, but now forcing him at LT makes me nervous. He needed time to grow and now he won't get it.

[Big_Pete]

Originally Posted by Zak

We brought in Jake Long for a talk yesterday but this needs to get done. It sounds like it was just an initial meeting though.

Jerry Reese mentioned we are still looking for OL help.

we gave Long a physical and keeping an eye on him, which hints to me that he isn't quite ready yet

[OSUGiants]

Was wondering where you guys went

[scottyboy]

osu that new sig has gotta go

[OSUGiants]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

osu that new sig has gotta go

Whaaaaaaat? Por que? I'm merely repping the best team in the B1G and all of college football

[scottyboy]

Originally Posted by OSUGiants

Whaaaaaaat? Por que?

We R rivals now

[bigbluedefense]

I'm loving everything I hear about Spags defense so far. We pretty much already knew what he was going to bring here, it just feels good to hear that he hasn't really changed his scheme since he left.

That's exactly what we need, and his scheme is pretty much exactly what I prefer.

So now we really have no excuses on defense. If they suck, don't blame the scheme. It's all on the players this year. We have what we want schematically, now we really get to see who's what.

Same thing on offense. This is the best I've felt about our Xs and Os probably in the past 10 years. It's not the Xs and Os that will hold us back. It's the players. Time will tell what we have.

I see a 8-8 roster with potential to sway +-2 games either direction, now with the Beatty injury I don't know what we have anymore.

[Damix]

If a player gets burnt in coverage, a player gets burnt in coverage. If theres a guy running down the field wide open and two players looking at each other not sure who was supposed to be covering him, its on the coach.

The former is Spags, the later Fewell.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Damix

If a player gets burnt in coverage, a player gets burnt in coverage. If theres a guy running down the field wide open and two players looking at each other not sure who was supposed to be covering him, its on the coach.

The former is Spags, the later Fewell.

Pretty much yeah.

There will still be miscomms, there always is, but the number is going to drastically drop.

[Damix]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Pretty much yeah.

There will still be miscomms, there always is, but the number is going to drastically drop.

Of course, remember how terrible our defense was the first two weeks of Spags first go around? It is going to take some time for us to gel again.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Damix

Of course, remember how terrible our defense was the first two weeks of Spags first go around? It is going to take some time for us to gel again.

This combination of Coughlin/Spags/McAdoo is the best coaching combination we've had in the Eli era.

I really hope they can stick around, because I have serious doubts that we will upgrade from this combination through a coaching change if we don't make the playoffs.

If we don't make the playoffs this year it won't be because of the coaches, that's for sure.

[Zach]

Itd probably be because of the OL if you dont make it.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Zach

Itd probably be because of the OL if you dont make it.

Both lines, OL and DL. DL is still a question mark, I feel good about the talent we have on the DL but none of them are proven dependable commodities.

But yeah, it's mostly OL.

[Zak]

I think the DL is going to be fine if another DT steps up and I think that will be Ellis. OL we need Flowers to do well right away.

[bigbluedefense]

So Corey Washington is the new Ramses Barden huh?

[Damix]

Did Barden even have good TC's? He had that one game.

[bigbluedefense]

Yeah Barden was a training camp warrior. Stuff of legends.

I still want to see Corey got some snaps, but I'm not going to get too excited.

[Zak]

He is certainly stepping into that role BBD.