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Old 07-18-2018, 04:48 PM   #34101
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The first they're sending turns to 2 (presumably low) seconds after 1 year too as long as it's not in the top 20 this season. Damn.

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Old 07-18-2018, 04:52 PM   #34102
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Pretty sure the Spurs finessed the Raps here... they get back a top 20 player who is under contract for the next 3 years? Obviously Kawhi is the best player in the deal BUT he will for sure leave Toronto once he gets the chance.. also Kawhi & Lowry still doesn't beat BOS/PHI imo.... maybe Philly but another year together with all of them

Lowry/Kawhi/Derozan would of been a force but they probably wouldn't have a team around those 3 so that is why this deal had to happen but .. it was a lateral move.. did they get better? Yes but will Kawhi stay? No

Pop had other ideas for Kawhi and his immature actions. Sadly Danny Green had to be involved, ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Derozan is pretty average and his inability to shoot crippled the Raptors in the playoffs. On top of that, his contract is massive. This move gives the Raptors 2 potential massive upgrades to their roster and freed them of a giant contract that wasn't helping them to the next level.

This was also a pretty OK deal for the Spurs (good, given the circumstances). They got the bigs depth they desperately needed and a potential long-term fixture at the 5 in Poeltl, an aggressive wing who can pass which should work well with Patty Mills not being the best point guard in those areas, and they'll have another first rounder.
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Old 07-18-2018, 04:55 PM   #34103
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Derozan might actually be the best passer the Spurs have at this point with Anderson and Parker gone.
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Old 07-18-2018, 04:56 PM   #34104
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If the Raps flamed out in the playoffs again this year they probably needed to go another direction anyways. That puts them in a difference position to teams like Boston, Philly, or even the Lakers who have more direction over the next couple of years.

Kawhi obviously presents risk, but they reward could be major and they don't have a ton to lose really.

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Old 07-18-2018, 04:59 PM   #34105
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Whatever the modern day record is for most mid range jumpers taken, the Spurs are doubling that this season.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:00 PM   #34106
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Any chance Derozan makes a huge improvement just because Pop?
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:03 PM   #34107
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Any chance Derozan makes a huge improvement just because Pop?
Doubt it, but to Derozan's credit he's done a good job of improving his game throughout his career on his own so maybe a change of scenery and a chip on his shoulder helps.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:05 PM   #34108
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Chris Webber hated the trade to the Kings and I think he even chose not to report to Sacramento for a while. And of course he ended up loving Sacramento as a franchise and as a city.

I don't know if Kawhi will come around the same way that Webber did. If the Raptors can make a run at the Warriors, it might help. Getting him a 3rd piece (Capela? Cousins? Klay?) would help too. Is that even possible?
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:05 PM   #34109
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By all accounts I've heard Toronto is a great city. I think there's a chance they win him over.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:18 PM   #34110
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Chris Webber hated the trade to the Kings and I think he even chose not to report to Sacramento for a while. And of course he ended up loving Sacramento as a franchise and as a city.

I don't know if Kawhi will come around the same way that Webber did. If the Raptors can make a run at the Warriors, it might help. Getting him a 3rd piece (Capela? Cousins? Klay?) would help too. Is that even possible?
Really don't think Cousins will do anything for them, and Capela would be but probably don't overtly need him.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:23 PM   #34111
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Raptors are pretty much stuck with what they've got, which was one of the problems with DeRozan. They should have also been looking to move Lowry as well. They really need their young bench to step up.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:27 PM   #34112
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- not having dwayne casey for the first time in 8 years
- kyle-demar seemed to have a close relationship

i don't think they'll be close to winning the east but kyle-OG-kawhi could be scary
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:41 PM   #34113
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Could it be the Raps spin him off to the Lakers now since SA would have never done that?
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Could it be the Raps spin him off to the Lakers now since SA would have never done that?
Would have to wait until January, and they'd also have to take on Luol Deng's contract.
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:05 PM   #34115
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Lol ugh you guys...

We only know one thing about Kawhi, and it is that he wants to be in LA.. what else do we really know about Kawhi other then him being dominant as fuck? Spurs win the deal but only because the Raptors will lose in the playoffs and then he will leave. The Spurs can still be a playoff team with two guys that are top 10 for there position in LA & DD..

DD is a legend for the Raptors and they shipped him for a dude that who is way better yet has stated where he wants to play....

you guyzzzzzz haaaaahha come on

Spurs get back a legitimate all star rather than a box of unknowns, we have seen scenarios like this come on gentlemen.

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Old 07-18-2018, 06:06 PM   #34116
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The Raptors got rid of the DeRozan contract. That's a huge win.
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:06 PM   #34117
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If Kawhi will actually play, Raps are pretty damn deep along with two top 20 players.
We’re all cool with Corey calling Lowry a top 20 player?
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Old 07-18-2018, 06:11 PM   #34118
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Could it be the Raps spin him off to the Lakers now since SA would have never done that?
Yeah that's my thinking too. They're gonna trade Kawhi this season. They have less leverage than the Spurs did but they should be able to get something good back for him.
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We’re all cool with Corey calling Lowry a top 20 player?
Not I

I take DD at his position before I take Lowry at his

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Old 07-18-2018, 06:13 PM   #34120
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The Raptors got rid of the DeRozan contract. That's a huge win.
He is a top 10 SG in the NBA and makes 28M?

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