NFL Discussion Thread

[BeerBaron]

Yeah, there's just no realistic way. Getting a good QB on a rookie deal is the best situation you can hope to find yourself in.

And like the Rams and Eagles learned the hard way, and hopefully other teams learned from their mistake, you should not extend that QB until the last possible second, even if it means playing Franchise Tag games for a year or two.

[fenikz]

AZ should take advantage of the cap crunch most of these teams are under and sign solely released players since they don't count against you in comp selections

Reddick - 3rd
Peterson - 4th
Drake - 5th

Players that have already been released this offseason

JJ Watt
Carlos Dunlap
Janoris Jenkins
John Brown
Kyle Rudolph
Duke Johnson

etc
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/transactions/released/

[Forenci]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Yeah, there's just no realistic way. Getting a good QB on a rookie deal is the best situation you can hope to find yourself in.

And like the Rams and Eagles learned the hard way, and hopefully other teams learned from their mistake, you should not extend that QB until the last possible second, even if it means playing Franchise Tag games for a year or two.

Some might argue that didn't work out too well for the Cowboys.

[vidae]

The Chiefs are going to sign Trent Williams and Kyle Long, and then draft a C. Maybe Lando.

You heard it here first.

*cries into his pillow*

[ImBrotherCain]

Man looking back on it, the first round of the 2013 draft was kind of a shitshow.

[Don Vito]

Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

Man looking back on it, the first round of the 2013 draft was kind of a shitshow.

My favorite part of that draft was taking Aaron Dobson over Keenan Allen

[Dragon]

My dream Russell Wilson trade is Russ for some teams entire starting offensive line.

[fenikz]

What would the Colts have needed to throw in on top of Nelson

[ImBrotherCain]

Originally Posted by fenikz

What would the Colts have needed to throw in on top of Nelson

Wentz?

[Don Vito]

[njx9]

I love all of the "but we're committed to Deshaun!" out of Houston now.

I hope they don't make him sit out a season in the middle of his prime, but it sort of feels like they're going to.

[badger]

Originally Posted by njx9

I love all of the "but we're committed to Deshaun!" out of Houston now.

I hope they don't make him sit out a season in the middle of his prime, but it sort of feels like they're going to.

Does anyone know how much of his contract would he get if he sat out the whole season or beyond? I know there are a few years left on his deal. While I love watching him play, a dispute that neither side budged on for the remainder of his contract might just be more entertaining as a non-Texan fan.

[BeerBaron]

Oh, players who hold out under the newest CBA get completely fucked. Not only the fines (which teams can no longer "forgive" as they often did in the past), but I believe the contract tolls as well. Houston can say "play for us or play for no one ever while we fine you out the ass".

But...that's a horrible look for the team and it's likely, given Watson's value, that some team would eventually offer them so much that they simply can't refuse.

[badger]

Hmm that's too bad. I'd love to see the train wreck, but don't want Watson to lose out on all his money.

[ImBrotherCain]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

Oh, players who hold out under the newest CBA get completely fucked. Not only the fines (which teams can no longer "forgive" as they often did in the past), but I believe the contract tolls as well. Houston can say "play for us or play for no one ever while we fine you out the ass".

But...that's a horrible look for the team and it's likely, given Watson's value, that some team would eventually offer them so much that they simply can't refuse.

The business side of sports, especially in the last year has really turned me off.

Not the right thread, but I am a die hard Red Sox fan, and they traded away arguably their best player in the last 30-40 years because of the luxury tax.

I have kinda adopted a just enjoy the players you like to watch no matter the team now.

[Brent]

Originally Posted by ImBrotherCain

I have kinda adopted a just enjoy the players you like to watch no matter the team now.

join me in my NFL atheism, you get all the drama and fun without ever caring if a team wins or loses. unless that team has Tom Brady, in which case they should lose every game. also, I like to root for the players I like to get paid a lot, even if they are getting overpaid because who gives a shit it's not our money.

[yfs]

Originally Posted by Brent

join me in my NFL atheism, you get all the drama and fun without ever caring if a team wins or loses. unless that team has Tom Brady, in which case they should lose every game. also, I like to root for the players I like to get paid a lot, even if they are getting overpaid because who gives a shit it's not our money.

i think you put a finger on why i dislike the analytics community so much. if you're reflexively disturbed at the sight of a running back getting paid, NFL owners and management may have colonized your brain. these same folks who do "lol rb" would be the first to drop everything and take some crazy underpaid job to work for an nfl team.

i understand it from a fan's perspective - they want their teams to do well and make sound decisions (although eventually you'll likely have to make peace with the fact that you probably care more than your team's owner).

it's fucking weird when its coming from @RotoPFFrbsDontMatterPleaseCheckOutMyContent.

[vidae]

The Chiefs are letting Austin Reiter hit FA too, thank god. He was trash.

Get rid of injured Fisher and Schwartz (who is retiring) and get rid of a bad center. The Chiefs got better today.

[Don Vito]

It’s more just further proof that it made no sense for them to devote more premium picks/resources on skill guys like CEH, Hardman, and Watkins when they had not much of a plan for the OL. All while already having two elite skill guys along with a cheat code quarterback

[Zak]

Reid should be put out to pasture also.