New York Giants Thread

[scottyboy]

I thought Barden was pretty meh in camp. He had a killer game 3 seasons in but was all hype from college IIRC

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Zak

He is certainly stepping into that role BBD.

I actually like Corey a lot more than I ever liked Barden, but still, we've seen this before, I don't want to get excited about training camp superstars. We see it every year.

[Mel Pipeher]

If Corey Washington puts together another TC/preseason like he did last year then we have to find a way to get him on the field. Same goes for Soup Harris.

[Big_Pete]

Corey Washington seems to have been working on his special teams

[Big_Pete]

The competition at WR is going to be pretty strong in camp.

Barring injury, the first four roster spots are locked up with Beckham, Cruz, Randle and Harris.

We are going to have two rosters spots between Harris, Parker, Washington, Davis etc.

[BaLLiN]

I have the solution...we lure Anthony Davis to the Giants, he can stay at home and play RT. Boom.

[Zak]

Originally Posted by BaLLiN

I have the solution...we lure Anthony Davis to the Giants, he can stay at home and play RT. Boom.

This would be the tits but the 49'ers retain his rights so not possible.

[Zak]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

I thought Barden was pretty meh in camp. He had a killer game 3 seasons in but was all hype from college IIRC

Naa Barden always had big camps which is why he stayed on my good side forever. Once he had that big game against Carolina on the Thursday I thought I was validated.

[Big_Pete]

Originally Posted by BaLLiN

I have the solution...we lure Anthony Davis to the Giants, he can stay at home and play RT. Boom.

I would rather trade a day 3 draft pick to cleveland for Mitchell Schwartz.

He has been durable and is quite experienced at RT. He is off contract after the season and is Geoff Schwartz's younger brother.

Cleveland have been looking to upgrade anyway and have good options in house, plus they reportedly had Schwartz on the trade block last year.

Mitchell Schwartz would be effectively on a one year $1,095,114 "prove it" contract.

It would be similar to 2012 when we traded a 5th round pick for Keith Rivers.

[Mel Pipeher]

Pete, you mentioned trading for Schwartz at least a dozen times. It makes absolutely no sense to trade a draft pick for a guy on a one year contract when considering Long and Collins are still available and Beatty will be back early November.

[Big_Pete]

Originally Posted by Mel Pipeher

Pete, you mentioned trading for Schwartz at least a dozen times. It makes absolutely no sense to trade a draft pick for a guy on a one year contract when considering Long and Collins are still available and Beatty will be back early November.

I think it is a decent option.

Beatty won't be back until at least november, I don't think Newhouse is a reliable option.

Doesn't matter, I will shut up now.

[bigbluedefense]

Guys, this is basically our OL. We just have to accept that.

[bigbluedefense]

I think if RT becomes a major problem, I can see us moving Geoff to RT, and move Jerry in at G.

That's a realistic solution. Geoff played better than Pugh at RT last year in his limited time anyway, so he can hold it down. We obviously lose some at RG bc Jerry sucks, but Jerry sucks less than Newhouse so I could see that being the adjustment if we can't find a solution at RT.

But most importantly, if Flowers bombs at LT we're absolutely screwed. That's going to determine everything.

[bigbluedefense]

Did we tell NYG to come here? Where is he?

[Zak]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

Did we tell NYG to come here? Where is he?

We had a lot of posts saying we all came here so he should have figured it out.

[Zak]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I think if RT becomes a major problem, I can see us moving Geoff to RT, and move Jerry in at G.

That's a realistic solution. Geoff played better than Pugh at RT last year in his limited time anyway, so he can hold it down. We obviously lose some at RG bc Jerry sucks, but Jerry sucks less than Newhouse so I could see that being the adjustment if we can't find a solution at RT.

But most importantly, if Flowers bombs at LT we're absolutely screwed. That's going to determine everything.

Yeah your last sentence sums it up. They better be right on Flowers.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Zak

Yeah your last sentence sums it up. They better be right on Flowers.

I don't know how I feel about it. When I studied Flowers he seemed pretty good. Technique issues yes, but he's so big and fast that he can get away with it.

But everything you hear from ppl who scout OL a lot better than I do says that he's going to be a bust. So I'm nervous about it.

[Mel Pipeher]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

I think if RT becomes a major problem, I can see us moving Geoff to RT, and move Jerry in at G.

That's a realistic solution. Geoff played better than Pugh at RT last year in his limited time anyway, so he can hold it down. We obviously lose some at RG bc Jerry sucks, but Jerry sucks less than Newhouse so I could see that being the adjustment if we can't find a solution at RT.

But most importantly, if Flowers bombs at LT we're absolutely screwed. That's going to determine everything.

Yea I could see that happening. Makes the most sense as a quick fix. But it is only what the 7th OTA so we're still early in this process. I think they'll make a decision after OTAs on whether or not we need to add someone. Hell they may even wait to training camp.

And you're right we have to be right about Flowers. I was very high on Flowers through the process and earlier than most but even still I felt he may need some time to make the transition to LT. I like that they have Flowers getting that extra work in right now though.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Mel Pipeher

Yea I could see that happening. Makes the most sense as a quick fix. But it is only what the 7th OTA so we're still early in this process. I think they'll make a decision after OTAs on whether or not we need to add someone. Hell they may even wait to training camp.

And you're right we have to be right about Flowers. I was very high on Flowers through the process and earlier than most but even still I felt he may need some time to make the transition to LT. I like that they have Flowers getting that extra work in right now though.

I hope someone works with him all offseason to work on that kick slide and his hand placement. If he can fix that, we have a beast. If he doesn't fix that, we're in big trouble.

He bends at the waist a decent amount too. I'm just nervous, he's not ready. He needed a year to develop.

Which also makes me question why we took him when he's clearly a developmental player and we're another bad season away from a revamped front office. We needed an immediate impact guy.

[Big_Pete]

The Giants reportedly have some interest in WR James Jones who was recently cut by the Raiders in May. (The other teams with rumoured interest are the Seahawks and Chiefs)

McAdoo knows Jones from the Packers. Last year Jones had 73 rec for 666 yards, 6 TDs with the raiders.

Any thoughts?