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Old 06-20-2022, 02:50 PM   #59781
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Steph is no where close to LeBron, and it’s laughable if people think Durant wasn’t the best player on that Warriors super team.
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Old 06-20-2022, 04:21 PM   #59782
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It's the offseason so in their fans' minds, the Lakers/Lebrons can technically get anyone. They could even get Giannis!

Also, wouldn't be shocked if Kerr wants to hang it up soon and Atkinson stayed to be coach in line.
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Old 06-20-2022, 05:57 PM   #59783
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Durant had the easier job on those teams and he knocked it out of the park. Curry is the engine that makes the offense and team work. Durant out performed Curry and was better, but Curry was still more important to the teams success.
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Old 06-20-2022, 06:44 PM   #59784
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Steph is no where close to LeBron, and it’s laughable if people think Durant wasn’t the best player on that Warriors super team.
Regular Season 16-19

Steph: 26.3/4.9/6.0 on 64%ts, 25.4 per/7.0 bpm/.228 ws48
Kevin: 25.8/7.1/5.4 on 64%ts, 25.8 per/7.1 bpm/.229 ws48

Playoffs 16-19

Steph: 27.4/6.1/5.9 on 62%ts, 23.8 per/7.1 bpm/.210 ws48
Kevin: 29.6/7.1/4.5 on 64%ts, 26.2 per/8.3 bpm/.242 ws48

I feel like a lot of this "KD was clearly the best player on the Warriors" comes from the shiny Finals MVP trophy stuff and a grand total of 9 games. KD had the statistical edge in the playoffs but not at all conclusive and it doesn't account for the fact that KD benefitted significantly more from being on the Warriors than Steph did from KD joining. KD requires space to be at his best, so he was always going to benefit massively from joining the most impactful, space creating offensive player of all time. KD's playoff TS% never topped 57% in the three years before he joined Steph and was 54% in 15-16 lmao. He's just much easier to guard, gameplan against and contain in a non-GSW offense (the same thing happened this season) because he doesn't have the same shooting or handling ability as Steph. He's also not the same off-ball threat. They're not in the same league offensive impact wise. Hence why throughout the entire run Steph continued to be a +/- god regardless of who was on the floor and KD wasn't.
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:10 PM   #59785
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Hold up, someone needs to do a KD in the playoffs without Harden or Steph deep dive...

Early returns aren't great

4 games in 2022 - 52ts%
4 games in 2021 - 55ts%
6 games in 2018 - 60ts%
48 games in 13-16 - 56ts%

And just for fun, Steph in 2019 after KD went down

11 games 33/6/6 on 63ts%
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Old 06-20-2022, 07:50 PM   #59786
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Suns hire first black woman, Morgan Cato, to Assistant GM

Hopefully it's not just a Sarver media ploy and we can still force him out in some way
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Old 06-20-2022, 08:00 PM   #59787
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What are the Bulls going to give up for Gobert?
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Old 06-20-2022, 08:07 PM   #59788
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The fact that you had to write up all these stats just to make an argument is all I care to know. Lebron has been far and clear the best player on every team he's been on and that alone ends any debate that Curry is no where near LeBron. All around player Durant is a better player than Curry. Never had they hide Durant on defense in fear of him getting exposed.
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Old 06-20-2022, 08:37 PM   #59789
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“Better all around player” is an argument for lames. Paul George is a better all around player than Shaq.
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Old 06-20-2022, 08:45 PM   #59790
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bantx it's just a bad qualifier

like Shaq was the best player on every team he ever played on, that doesn't make him better than Kareem
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Old 06-20-2022, 08:56 PM   #59791
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Shaq wasn't the best player on any team after he left LA tho
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Old 06-20-2022, 08:58 PM   #59792
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every championship team*

wait no he won one with the Heat

whatever bad example, just saying playing with good players is a bad way to judge someone
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Old 06-20-2022, 11:10 PM   #59793
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What are the Bulls going to give up for Gobert?
Patrick Williams/Coby White/Vucevic
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Old 06-21-2022, 02:41 PM   #59794
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wait no he won one with the Heat
the ref was the best player on that 06 team
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:10 PM   #59795
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02 Kings/Lakers and 06 Mavs/Heat are the most egregiously reffed series in history.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:55 PM   #59796
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Caleb Swanigan died
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Old 06-21-2022, 04:18 PM   #59797
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02 Kings/Lakers and 06 Mavs/Heat are the most egregiously reffed series in history.
As usual 2001 Bucks/Sixers is forgotten despite being considerably worse than either.
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As usual 2001 Bucks/Sixers is forgotten despite being considerably worse than either.
Because it involved the Bucks and the Sixers. You know damn well no one gave a fuck about watching that series Corey. I don't even remember watching it.
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Aaron Williams fouled out in 7 minutes of gametime in the finals. That shit was rigged
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Old 06-21-2022, 04:53 PM   #59800
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Patrick Williams/Coby White/Vucevic
Deal

I like PWill but he's still incredibly unknown.

That said, I doubt we get away without giving up a pick but if Gobert wants out/they want to get rid of him, maybe we can.
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